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Post by Zain Winters on Jul 9, 2007 2:05:37 GMT -5
last weekend i was truly introduced into this type of music, and well..i want to know what drives people to listen to music like this that does nothing but talk about cutting, suicide etc etc etc, i mean it seriously doesnt make sense to me, infact listening to that music makes me want to punch out the band, and just knock out all people who listen to that complete crap, i honastly refuse to even be friends with these people now, i listened for about 1min of hawthorne heights and i couldnt take, i was outraged by this selfish bullshit they call music, this world er..America atleast was SUPPOSED to be brought up on honor, kindness selfless actions, freedom and so much more like that, and these...Punks sit there and sing about how life is and get groups of stupid people to follow them around blindly and then they sit there and cry about how much there life sucks because that band has them practically brainwashed into being a flipping retard. but then again thats what almost all music does, but this crap of encouraging us to be sad over something that doesnt exsist is complete crap. i just got distracted so i have no clue what i was trying to proove by this except for the fact that people should seriously...seriously..invest into Leslie's "Sunshine Lollipops" it may not be the best genre but atleast the damn song is truthful and looks at the brightside instead of screaming about having her period and commiting sucide over it.
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Post by Lurid Sorcerer on Jul 9, 2007 3:57:26 GMT -5
Sorry I had to subject you to that, but it seemed like it had to be done. Yes, indeed, everyone who listens to Hawthorne Heights and the like should no longer exist. If you're going to sing about killing yourself, grow some balls and do it; we don't want to hear your follow-up album that's about the same thing as the first, just with a different girlfriend's name.
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Post by Child of Flame on Jul 18, 2007 14:37:55 GMT -5
O.o
I'll say. It seems as if the majority of our generation is comprised of selfish retards. But who can blame them? When you drink yourself to death and get high all the time (not to mention becoming broke for buying all them drugs) and get knocked up, who wouldn't want to scream about how horrible their lives are? And then there are some whose lives are nothing like that.
"My mommy won't drive me to the mall! I'm not going to see that guy I like, I WANT TO DIEEE!!"
I'd like it if someone could just tell them all to shut the fuck up and grow up, but then they'd scream about that, too. Too bad!
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Post by DrukenHammer on Jul 19, 2007 17:17:12 GMT -5
2nd Greatest T-shirt I've ever seen:
"Shakespeare hates your stupid emo poems."
Fantastic.
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Post by Lurid Sorcerer on Jul 20, 2007 1:22:54 GMT -5
That's the most beautiful thing anything has ever said about anything.
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Post by Zain Winters on Jul 20, 2007 17:59:16 GMT -5
<.< i agree that shirt rules
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Post by DC_Desperado on Jul 21, 2007 0:26:17 GMT -5
Shakespeare thanks you.
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Post by DrukenHammer on Dec 5, 2008 9:08:39 GMT -5
Now, it may come as a surprise to most of you, but I actually enjoy a good bit of emo. Just not the crap that gets put out by MOST acts today, as that's exactly what they are... acts! The "scene" kids are just the same to me as the white boys that act like they were raised in the ghetto would look like to people in Southcentral L.A., like a joke! But some is good...
...Then again, I like 90's music much more than anything except maybe some stuff from the late 60's...
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Post by Zain Winters on Dec 5, 2008 9:49:00 GMT -5
very..random thing to reply to, but no we wont bash you for enjoying some, BUT! we will bash you for acting it XD..but then again what emo do you mean? i mean i dont remeber if 90s emo was the always sad stuff or if it was accually "emotional" like it prolly should be?
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Post by DrukenHammer on Dec 5, 2008 15:46:16 GMT -5
One word... Fugazi.
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Post by Zain Winters on Dec 5, 2008 18:43:18 GMT -5
*wiki's them* they dont seem to be considered emo (but then again its all on what YOU think i guess? sure seems like it..hell yeah..mm..yeah..) but they sound pretty good, and diffrent definatly, oddly never heard of them before though
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Post by DrukenHammer on Dec 5, 2008 22:04:29 GMT -5
Classic... and that's the problem with labels, especially when the names start to mean different things... Now, they'd be considered "post-hardcore", same thing with At the Drive-In... My favorite band of all time.
Others like Mineral and Sunny Day Real Estate were softer. The voice style that's been noted to sound as whining was actually heavily influenced by numerous English bands going back to The Smiths, on up to the Manic Street Preachers... It only started getting to all the screaming and whining around 2000. That's when the bands that are popular now took what was supposed to be "emotional punk rock" and took a huge shit on it.
You'd also know that all of these bands sound different. Unlike the ones today that suck ass. Also, notice the absence of psudo-goth crap, or really any style... It's just everyday guys, really.
It's also true that early "emo" and "post-hardcore" also get lumped in the "post-grunge" stuff... Which means this...
Labels suck and listen to what you damn well please. As long as it's music and not some marketed souless commodity.
"There's nothing in this that I must defend There are no artforms now, just capitalism! So send the National Guard... To the Mall of America."
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Post by Zain Winters on Dec 7, 2008 17:47:19 GMT -5
very well said, in the wiki there not even mentioned as emo or even anything remotely close, but i do know what you mean labels barely make sense anymore, but you said it way better then the rest of us!
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Post by Eow on Dec 12, 2008 16:38:10 GMT -5
I can see how their lyrics could be felt by some particularly angsty teenagers. No matter what the lyrics, you kind of feel better when there's someone "understanding" you. Then there's the ones who just listen to it, because their friends listen to it, or it was #1 on their radio station. Either way I dislike how "emo" people are with their life in general.
I never really felt any emotion to their music though. When I heard their songs I just made movies up in my head and used that music as a sort of white noise...
(I had their CD a while back. They've been used in a science project though:P)
...But there's one of their songs that's about as Emo as you can get: "Cut my wrist and black my eyes (so I can fall asleep tonight)" or something like that. In the back of the little packet, where they put lyrics and dedications, they say "Hawthorn Heights does not support self mutilation" - then why use it in your music? If you don't believe in something or support something, why use it in such a way? I can understand Irony and Sarcasm, but this isn't any of that, this is "OMG IM SO ANGRY/SAD I WANNA JUST HURT MYSELF TO GET THE PAIN OUT!!!"...Which is dumb.
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Post by Lurid Sorcerer on Dec 14, 2008 1:19:31 GMT -5
I've got just one burning question:
WHO'S THE WHACKJOB THAT BUMPED THIS THREAD?!?!?!?!?
<edit> *re-reads* Oh, have to agree with Druken. Emo that covers more emotions than just suicidal crap can actually be pretty good. Emo that just focuses on how much the subject of the song wants to die is basically crap. It's hard to feel as though such things are heart-felt; it really seems more like "artists" trying to pump the concept for as much money and fame as possible. </edit>
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